One day, I tweeted that I was digging up data about the historical John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt, “at whom people shouted whenever he went out.” I added that “He killed nine of them and ate their bones. Kids who sing the song today don’t know all the verses about his 1796 hanging.”
I should have guessed that people would think I was serious! It is the kind of research I do, after all, and people are always willing to believe that nonsense children’s poem have sinister origins. Look how many people still think “Ring Around the Rosy” is about the plague.
Realizing my mistake, I set out to see where the song DID come from. The lyrics seem to have been standard for decades:
John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt
His name is my name too
Whenever I go out
The people always shout
John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt!
There are minor variations, just as “that’s my name too” vs “his name is my name too,” and whether the people always shout or like to shout, but the song doesn’t change much.
Finding the origins of it are tricky, partly because, while the song remains the same, historically people have gone their own way on how to spell “Jingleheimer.” Sometimes it’s multiple words; the earliest reference I could find was a July 25, 1923 Allentown Morning Call, which referred to children singing “a very touching and pathetic rendition of that wonderful, soul-stirring song, ‘John Jacob Jingle Himer Schnidt.”
From what I could find, the song may have started out in Pennsylvania, as most of the earliest 1920s references to it come from papers in that state (though even the Morning Call couldn’t stick to one spelling). But there are also references from that time in Wisconsin and Illinois, and even the early references seem to imply that the song was already well-known and old by then.
Variations in the name were common enough; a 1942 Ladies Home Journal transcribed the song as “John Jacob Jingle Homer Jones.” At least one other 1940s source used “Smith” as the last name.
Given the different spellings and variations, it’s entirely possible that it was recorded in some source I just haven’t found yet. I’ll keep looking!
Good article! I was wondering if you knew anything about the origin of the playground parodies of Smash Mouth’s “All Star”? Back in elementary school, there was one rhyme (to the tune of “All Star” by Smash Mouth) that went:
“Somebody once told me the world was macaroni
So I took a big bite of a tree
It tasted kinda funky so I threw up on a monkey
And the monkey started cussing at me
Two thousand years later the monkey was Darth Vader
And he tried to slash me with his lightsaber” (It kinda ended there)
A quick google search of “somebody once told me the world was macaroni” shows a lot of results with different variations, showing this was much more widespread than just my school. I feel this would have been a more recent rhyme, and probably cropped up around the early 2000s after Shrek was released. Do you know anything about this rhyme and it’s origins?
You said you were finding different names for the last name being used in the early 1940s or 1942. That should be no surprise. They removed the German sound from the name during World War II.
I absolutely love this site, and recently remembered an old song I knew which I didn’t find on here!! Might be because of how regional it is – It’s a parody song of Postman Pat, which so far as I’m aware was only aired in Britain. But, considering how many variations of I Hate You I’ve heard from friends around the UK, I’m curious as to how many might exist of this, and if it was popular at all.
I have to assume I heard it at some time in the early 2000s, in Oxfordshire:
Postman Pat, Postman Pat,
Postman Pat ran over his cat,
Blood and guts went flying
Pat was really crying
He really wasn’t a happy man
I have vague ideas that there might be another verse, or perhaps another version, that I knew, but I can’t remember it now. I have to assume its origin is earlier, since the show aired in the 80s and then 90s, but I wouldn’t know. Thank you for this wonderful archive, I recently got to pull it out as a conversation piece, and I’ve found this subject fascinating!